In a recent podcast episode that has caught significant attention, former President Donald Trump sat down for a three-hour interview with Joe Rogan, the most popular podcaster in America. During this extensive discussion, Trump opened up about a variety of topics, including what he considers to be the “biggest mistake” of his presidency, his conversations with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, and even the possibility of extraterrestrial life.

Interestingly, two years ago, Rogan labeled Trump as “an existential threat to democracy” and declined to feature him on his podcast. However, the tone of their conversation this time was notably amicable, as they bonded over their mutual interests in the Ultimate Fighting Championship and shared acquaintances like Elon Musk.

Trump’s campaign is optimistic that this interview will strengthen his appeal among male voters, who comprise a significant portion of Rogan’s audience. With 14.5 million followers on Spotify and 17.5 million subscribers on YouTube, the “Joe Rogan Experience” remains a powerful platform for reaching a wide audience.

To participate in this interview, Trump made an unexpected detour to Austin, Texas, which led him to arrive nearly three hours late to a rally in Traverse City, Michigan. This city is a vital swing state, where both Trump and his Democratic opponent, Kamala Harris, have been vigorously campaigning.